{"id":2349,"date":"2011-08-04T06:00:44","date_gmt":"2011-08-04T12:00:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/fromlaw2grace.com\/?p=2349"},"modified":"2011-08-04T06:00:44","modified_gmt":"2011-08-04T12:00:44","slug":"when-scripture-is-misused-to-stifle-debate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fromlaw2grace.com\/?p=2349","title":{"rendered":"When Scripture is (Mis)Used to Stifle Debate!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Many of us are\u00a0guilty\u00a0of it.\u00a0 I admit that I am.\u00a0 We sometimes selectively use Scripture to bolster our arguments.\u00a0 When we want to win a point in a debate over theology, methodology, ecclesiology, or the like, we run to our favorite Biblical passage for ammunition to use in the fight.\u00a0 After all, who wants to &#8220;lose&#8221; a fight and, what better way to &#8220;win&#8221; than to resort to God&#8217;s Word.<\/p>\n<p>Who hasn&#8217;t been in a debate with a non-believer &#8212; someone who couldn&#8217;t tell you if\u00a0the Gospel of Matthew\u00a0was in the Old Testament or New Testament &#8212; when all of a sudden, they begin quoting a verse from Matthew from memory.\u00a0 Now mind you, the particular verse that he or she quotes has overtaken John 3:16 as the most popular verse in America.\u00a0 It is a short verse, so that has made it easier for cultural Christians to commit to memory, should they ever need it when debating overly judgmental Christian-types.\u00a0 What verse am I talking about?\u00a0 Why Matthew 7:1, <em>&#8220;Judge not, lest ye be judged&#8221;<\/em>\u00a0(they always seem to memorize it in the KJV).<\/p>\n<p>While Matthew 7:1 is the most popular verse for pagans to use to win a debate with the Bible thumpers, another verse in Matthew has become popular with Christians who want to stifle debate with other Christians.\u00a0 What verse might that be?\u00a0<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone.\u00a0 If he listens to you, you have gained your brother.&#8221; <em><strong>(Matthew 18:15, ESV)<\/strong><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I must admit that I am not a fan of using this verse to cut off debate or to win an argument.\u00a0 I believe that it not only is a misuse of this particular Scripture, but that many times the use of Matthew\u00a018:15 comes into play when one wants to deflect attention away from\u00a0the central points of a debate.\u00a0 When you don&#8217;t want to defend your position &#8212; or more likely the case, when you don&#8217;t want to defend the actions or words of someone\u00a0who you like &#8212; you can pull Matthew 18:15 out to redirect an opponent away from pursuing a friend or an ally.<\/p>\n<p>The latest\u00a0example\u00a0of the use of the Matthew 18:15 defense is occurring\u00a0in the context of a discussion at SBCVoices (<a href=\"http:\/\/sbcvoices.com\/dr-james-merritt-fhtm-and-his-blogging-critics\/\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>)\u00a0regarding criticism of Dr. James Merritt, Senior Pastor of Cross Pointe Church in Georgia and a former President of the Southern Baptist Convention, by certain bloggers (<a href=\"http:\/\/rebekah1.wordpress.com\/2011\/07\/28\/surprised-by-a-hero-of-mine\/#respond\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/peterlumpkins.typepad.com\/peter_lumpkins\/2011\/07\/fhtm-and-dr-james-merritts-confusing-ministry-by-peter-lumpkins.html\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/fbcjaxwatchdog.blogspot.com\/2011\/07\/i-thought-i-had-seen-it-allthen-i-saw.html\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>\u00a0and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.welcometomybrain.net\/2011\/07\/tell-tale-sign-of-corruption.html\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>), including yours truly (<a title=\"Weekend 7: Money, Money,\u00a0Money\" href=\"http:\/\/fromlaw2grace.com\/2011\/07\/30\/weekend-7-money-money-money\/\">here<\/a>).\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>In response to an email inquiry sent by Voices Editor Dave Miller to Dr. Merritt regarding his &#8220;alleged&#8221; involvement in a multi-level direct marketing scheme called Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing (FHTM), the Communications Director for Cross Pointe, Gene Mason, wasted no time in taking Matthew 18:15 out of his arsenal in an attempt to defend Dr. Merritt&#8217;s refusal to respond to (unnamed) critical blog posts.\u00a0 Said Mason:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Pastor Merritt has chosen not to respond to blog entries he recently was made aware of because (1)\u00a0the authors have already defied Matthew 18:15 . . . &#8221; <em>(Mr. Mason&#8217;s full email response can be read <a href=\"http:\/\/sbcvoices.com\/dr-james-merritt-fhtm-and-his-blogging-critics\/\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>)<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I&#8217;m still not sure what it means to &#8220;defie&#8221; Matthew 18:15, but someone proficient in communication must know better than I what that means.\u00a0 In any event, just because a Pastor, Communications Director, Blogger, or Commenter says that something defies or contravenes Matthew 18:15 does not make it so.\u00a0 A person is certainly within their rights to interpret Matthew 18:15 as applying to this situation, but that person&#8217;s interpretation is not binding on anyone else.<\/p>\n<p>For the sake of argument, let&#8217;s assume that Mr. Mason meant that certain bloggers have &#8220;defied&#8221; Matthew 18:15 because they did not first contact Dr. Merritt regarding his involvement in FHTM.\u00a0 Of course, also for the sake of argument, let&#8217;s stipulate to the\u00a0fact that Dr. Merritt&#8217;s participation in FHTM\u00a0was public knowledge through the posting of public videos (since deleted) on the internet showing Dr. Merritt extolling the virtues of FHTM.\u00a0 Let&#8217;s further stipulate to the fact that Dr. Merritt, through Mr. Mason&#8217;s email to SBCVoices, admits that Dr. Merritt &#8220;was involved in FHTM.&#8221;\u00a0 Finally, let&#8217;s stipulate, for the sake of argument, that Dr. Merritt &#8220;found it (FHTM) to be a reputable organization&#8221; during the time of his involvement.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, that&#8217;s all well and good, but that doesn&#8217;t answer if or how Matthew 18:15 should be applied to well-known Christian figures prior to any public criticism or questioning of that figure&#8217;s actions or words.\u00a0 The way that I read Mr. Mason&#8217;s response, it would appear that any criticism of Dr. Merritt (or any other Christian) can only happen if and when a &#8220;critic&#8221; contacts the object of criticism or questioning in advance of writing anything negative.<\/p>\n<p>If one were inclined to view the Church as &#8220;universal&#8221; first and &#8220;local&#8221;\u00a0second, then one could argue that a Christian brother in New Mexico or North Carolina is mandated &#8212; via Matthew 18:15 &#8212; to always try to make contact with the offending brother or sister before anything negative or critical is written.\u00a0 If that were the case (which I don&#8217;t believe it is), then would we not also\u00a0be obligated to contact\u00a0an offending Southern Baptist as well as an offending Moderate Baptist,\u00a0Methodist, Episcopalian, or Catholic before questioning their words or actions or books\u00a0in our blog posts?\u00a0 Before I questioned <a title=\"The Pope &amp; Me: Fans of the Big Bang\u00a0Theory\" href=\"http:\/\/fromlaw2grace.com\/2011\/01\/07\/the-pope-me-fans-of-the-big-bang-theory\/\" target=\"_blank\">the Pope about his thoughts on the Big Bang Theory<\/a>, shouldn&#8217;t I have at least tried to email the Vatican?\u00a0 The next time that I criticize\u00a0President Obama (a professed Christian), I suppose I should shoot out an email to the White House for a response.\u00a0 That is, unless you think that only Southern Baptists are part of the universal church!<\/p>\n<p>I could offer more examples, but you may begin to understand that the Matthew 18:15 argument, as selectively employed by Mr. Mason and others to stifle debate, collapses under its own weight.\u00a0 One need only peruse\u00a0the blog sites of some well-known SBC bloggers to conclude that they probably don&#8217;t\u00a0contact all\u00a0the subjects (many times professed Christians) of their critical blog posts prior to\u00a0publication.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Kinda reminds me of my freshman year\u00a0at George Washington University when I lived in Thurston Hall.\u00a0 Marijuana\u00a0consumption was rampant in the\u00a0Fall of 1984 and I had often complained to the Resident Assistant on my floor.\u00a0 She knew about the pot smoking, but\u00a0chose not to enforce the clear rules.\u00a0 One day, a friend and\u00a0I were kicking a soccer ball in the long hallway on the 7th floor.\u00a0 That also was a clear violation of the rules.\u00a0 The RA\u00a0came around the corner,\u00a0picked up the soccer ball and said she was going to confiscate it because\u00a0we were violating the rules.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I simply turned to her and said, <em>&#8220;If you&#8217;re going to enforce that rule, why don&#8217;t you go ahead and start enforcing all the rules.&#8221;\u00a0<\/em> Needless to say, she handed me back the soccer ball.\u00a0 The moral of the story:\u00a0 if you&#8217;re going to apply Matthew 18:15\u00a0to your theological\u00a0opponents, you better start applying it to your theological friends!\u00a0 Or, better yet, don&#8217;t apply it where it clearly doesn&#8217;t belong.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Many of us are\u00a0guilty\u00a0of it.\u00a0 I admit that I am.\u00a0 We sometimes selectively use Scripture to bolster our arguments.\u00a0 When we want to win a point in a debate over theology, methodology, ecclesiology, or the like, we run to our favorite Biblical passage for ammunition to use in the fight.\u00a0 After all, who wants 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